Crusaders of the Dark Savant (Wizardry 7) - Thievery Author unknown Thief: If you take a thief, you are being a fool. Take a ranger, ninja, or bard instead. Just as effective in thievery and a whole lot more useful in other situations. FWIW I have found that no one is as good as a thief at thievery for the first several levels. I tried a race between a ninja, a ranger, a bard, and a thief to see who could gain skullduggery fastest. When they were all 3rd level, the thief had a skill level of about 25, while the other three all had around 12. So, if you want to develop thieving ability fast, the thief is best. I *hate* having chests blow up in my face, so I start with a thief for a few levels, and then change him to something else. The thief gains levels the fastest, so this doesn't take long. The amount to go to second level for the classes is: F 1000 Mage 1250 Pr 1100 Th 900 Rang 1300 Alch 1150 Bard 1250 Val 1150 Bis 1500 Lord 1300 Sam 1400 Monk 1400 Ninja 1500 Psi 1250 To gain higher levels, the amount is a power of two times the amount listed above, so going from 5th to 6th level for a Lord is 1300 * 2^3. - o -