Swords of Xeen Some help from Arnie @~I asked Arnie a few questions by email on Mum's behalf as she @~was playing the game. He sent replies and also some extra hints. The names of the two shrines are PAIN and DESPAIR. You'll gain an orb here (positive or negative, can't remember which) The answer to the riddle about '10 men's strength' is ROPE. To defeat the level 3 robots - they can only be defeated by sheer luck. I tried hundreds of times and as soon as I killed one I saved, and reloaded when necessary. There are also some metal men in a sphere. They cannot be killed. The way past them is to jump around the map avoiding them providing you know where you need to be going. It took me longer to finish that section of the game than the rest put together. This was the area that was the most bugged and I only finished by sheer determination - nothing to do with gameplay. The spaceship is the last place to be visited as it is the end of the game. You must have all the Elder weapons and be wearing them when in the ship. You need both the positive and negative orbs there too. If you spend some time exploring and mapping the ship there are certain squares that trigger the alarms so jump over them. To get enough hit points to survive use Lloyds beacon from the fountain at F5 7/4 where you can drink until drunk for thousands of points. Bear in mind that magic does not work on board so you can't beacon back so set it just outside. - o -